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mission in benghazi, libya. >>> kate made her first appearance since being hospitalized for pregnancy sickness. >>> wall streets begin the final full week of trading with the tragedy in mind. along with a renewed push for tighter gun control legislation. >>> several police departments are across the country like this one in maryland held gun buybacks over the weekend. trading firearms and ammunition for cash. >>> elsewhere the u.s. postal service said today will be the busiest day of the year for mailing christmas cards. >>> meanwhile fed ex is expected to report a slip in profits. >>> also ahead this week, earnings from walgreens and nike. a record at the weekend box office. the hobbit an unexpected journey earned nearly $85 million nationwide. the biggest december opening of all-time. >>> now, for another look at the weather here's nbc meteorologist dylan dreyer. i can't remember the last time i have seen a movie. >> i have seen skyfall, the last movie that i have been to, it's hard to find time to get back to the movies. hard to believe that we're in december and not really seeing
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but have we seen the full fallout from benghazi yet? >> not yet. there's still areas that i'm sure congress is going to want to explore. and i think that senator graham sing correct, that secretary clinton should be asked questions that she apparently was not asked during the course of the investigation. and be held accountable for them. i think that she will be. i think she will testify very forthrightly and one of those issues where, you know, you said at the top of the department and not everything comes to your attention. what the report cited was xroes inadequacies in terms of leadership and management skills at that bureau level and the question is did any of that information ever get to her and if not why not. what can be done to prevent that in the future. you can't be 100% in preventing it in the future. but steps can be taken, secretary sclin ton has said there's a 29 recommendations she endorses fully and those have to be implemented and secretary kerry, when confirmed, will be carrying those out. >> any concern the republicans when maki
but have we seen the full fallout from benghazi yet? >> not yet. there's still areas that i'm sure congress is going to want to explore. and i think that senator graham sing correct, that secretary clinton should be asked questions that she apparently was not asked during the course of the investigation. and be held accountable for them. i think that she will be. i think she will testify very forthrightly and one of those issues where, you know, you said at the top of the department and...
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mission in benghazi and elsewhere at high-threat places around the world. this, of course, the attack on 9/11 that killed chris stevens and three other americans. bob corker serves on the senate foreign relations committee and heard testimony during the closed session with the committee today. there will be open sessions tomorrow. they just briefed at the state department, in fact, that's still in progress. senator, one of the conclusions is that security was -- that there were security failures there, before, during, and after, but particularly before and during, that they were relying on the local militia, which was completely grossly inadequate, the reports said. what are your conclusions following the briefing that you received from the top leaders? >> well, i had seen films, andrea, last week of both the security cameras, but also later from drones. it was later in the evening, but the security personnel we had out front literally jumped on a truck and left as soon as they saw a crowd coming, so -- >> you're talking about the libyans, not the americans
mission in benghazi and elsewhere at high-threat places around the world. this, of course, the attack on 9/11 that killed chris stevens and three other americans. bob corker serves on the senate foreign relations committee and heard testimony during the closed session with the committee today. there will be open sessions tomorrow. they just briefed at the state department, in fact, that's still in progress. senator, one of the conclusions is that security was -- that there were security...
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consulate in benghazi. at yesterday's hearing, senator john kerry who is widely expected to be nominated as the next secretary of state said congress should share some of the blame for what happened in libya. >> i want to be crystal clear about something else. congress also bears some responsibility here. congress has the power of the purse. >> for years, we have asked our state department to operate with increasingly lesser resources to conduct essential missions. and because of the gridlock and excesses in the senate and congress itself, we have not even been able to pursue the regular order of authorizing legislation. adequately funding america's foreign policy objectives is not spending. it's investing. >> republican senator bob corker countered that the state department was notution its existing resources efficiently. >> secretary clinton just sent up a notification to congress asking for $1.3 billion. why did she never ask for any notification or change of resources to make sure benghazi was secure? >
consulate in benghazi. at yesterday's hearing, senator john kerry who is widely expected to be nominated as the next secretary of state said congress should share some of the blame for what happened in libya. >> i want to be crystal clear about something else. congress also bears some responsibility here. congress has the power of the purse. >> for years, we have asked our state department to operate with increasingly lesser resources to conduct essential missions. and because of...
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this as both the house and the senate are taking up the benghazi report. nick, this report was pretty devastating for the state department. you've quickly pointed out that congress also has a role in properly funding their security at these outposts. >> well, it was a very hard-hitting report. there are a lot of lessons here that the state department is going to have to think about. rework some of the procedures and rededicate themselves to this mission of our embassies and consulates overseas. there's nothing more important. i think secretary clinton was right to send the letter this week to the congress she would accept all the recommendations and begin to implement them and i believe that she will do that and her team will do that, as well, but there is on the side of this, andrea, the fact is the state department budget as a percentage of the federal budget is quite small, it is not fully funded for the last few years and the security request, that's the request for funds to protect the diplomats, to solidify the infrastructure of the embassies to supp
this as both the house and the senate are taking up the benghazi report. nick, this report was pretty devastating for the state department. you've quickly pointed out that congress also has a role in properly funding their security at these outposts. >> well, it was a very hard-hitting report. there are a lot of lessons here that the state department is going to have to think about. rework some of the procedures and rededicate themselves to this mission of our embassies and consulates...
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ambassador to the united nations answering questions about the attack on benghazi. >> it wasn'ta unusual, i have done sunday shows many times in the past. secretary clinton had originally been asked by most of the networks to go on. she had had an incredibly grueling week dealing with the protests around the middle east and north africa that it envol lopped our embassy. she consoled the whole state department and greet the families and the boths. she declined to do it. and i was asked by the who is if i would do it, as the next senior american diplomat. >> would it have been a whole different thing if hillary clinton had done those shows that day or would there still have been a fight over susan rice? >> we can't know, it's impossible to know if something else would have come up and she would have found herself answering for this controversy in other ways. i do think that we saw when susan rice went to capitol hill and attempted to make peace, not only with the senators who seemed set against her like john mccain, but senator who is seemed more open to considering her like susan collins,
ambassador to the united nations answering questions about the attack on benghazi. >> it wasn'ta unusual, i have done sunday shows many times in the past. secretary clinton had originally been asked by most of the networks to go on. she had had an incredibly grueling week dealing with the protests around the middle east and north africa that it envol lopped our embassy. she consoled the whole state department and greet the families and the boths. she declined to do it. and i was asked by...
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. >> the susan rice/benghazi witch-hunt, what is your reaction to that? >> well, keep in mind john kerry is barack obama's first choice. susan rice wasn't a choice. she got tied up into the politics of benghazi. but this is who the president likes, believes in. kerry gave obama that great nominating speech slot in 2004. but kerry has been able to be bipartisan in the true sense. he has been able to cut deals and work with senators -- senator murkowski is a friend of his from alaska, for example. this is going to be one of the best appointments, selections that the president could have made. and most people on capitol hill feel the same. >> quickly, will he go through confirmation easily? >> he will go through. i think vicki kennedy will come in and be the senator for that interim period. it's 145 to 160 days until governor deval patrick is going to set that up. i think he is probably going to run for senate. >> interesting. great to have you with us, professor. thank you so much. >>> coming up, the owner of some big-name chain restaurants sees profits plu
. >> the susan rice/benghazi witch-hunt, what is your reaction to that? >> well, keep in mind john kerry is barack obama's first choice. susan rice wasn't a choice. she got tied up into the politics of benghazi. but this is who the president likes, believes in. kerry gave obama that great nominating speech slot in 2004. but kerry has been able to be bipartisan in the true sense. he has been able to cut deals and work with senators -- senator murkowski is a friend of his from alaska,...
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hill ri has severe benghazi allergy. >> i've been doing a lot of work on that. she is the first reported case and it's a very, very severe one. >> very, very severe. let's see the medical report on that. >> first, they wanted to see the president's birth certificate. then they wanted to see his college transcripts. now they want to see hillary clinton's medical records. unfortunately, we've seen this movie before. last year, they -- the right unfairly blamed attorney genric holder for the fast and furious gun walking screen. now, it's secretary clinton's turn. the republicans can't lay a glove on the president, so they attack everyone around him. and, now, they're trying to get in some punches on a potential 2016 candidate as well. joining me now is ryan grimm, washington bureau chief for the huffington post and molly bowl. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks, reverend. >> ryan, what's behind all of these ridiculous attacks on secretary clinton? >> part of it is just to have a primal hatred that a lot of republicans still ha
hill ri has severe benghazi allergy. >> i've been doing a lot of work on that. she is the first reported case and it's a very, very severe one. >> very, very severe. let's see the medical report on that. >> first, they wanted to see the president's birth certificate. then they wanted to see his college transcripts. now they want to see hillary clinton's medical records. unfortunately, we've seen this movie before. last year, they -- the right unfairly blamed attorney genric...
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congress has held numerous hearings, all kinds of speeches, all kinds of accusations in the benghazi matter. let's see what the congress does now. and certainly, the president will provide the kind of leadership that is necessary. but it is time. after tucson, after arizona, a member of congress was shot in the head, and there was no response on the issue of gun safety and gun regulations by the united states congress. so we don't need anymore speeches. we need action. we've tried, many of us at the local level and certainly mayor bloomberg and mayor menino, their partnership, mayors against illegal guns. these guns, it's reported, were legally purchased, but obviously, improperly used. clearly, should have been locked up. the gun is gentleman is reported to have maybe have had some mental health challenges. so why would you leave that kind of weaponry, that kind of firepower available to someone who may be struggling from a mental health standpoint? so all of us have a responsibility here, everyone needs to get involved, the american people have had enough. their voices need to be h
congress has held numerous hearings, all kinds of speeches, all kinds of accusations in the benghazi matter. let's see what the congress does now. and certainly, the president will provide the kind of leadership that is necessary. but it is time. after tucson, after arizona, a member of congress was shot in the head, and there was no response on the issue of gun safety and gun regulations by the united states congress. so we don't need anymore speeches. we need action. we've tried, many of us...
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you have the benghazi report this morning. you've got the talk about the fiscal cliff, which underneath it suggests that government should do more with less, and the state department to some extent is a manifestation of that. it's actually an incredibly well managed bureaucracy. however, over the years it has been systematically underfunded. when a defense budget goes to the hill, congress -- members of congress go what can we add to it? when the foreign relations budget goes to the hill, the reaction is what can we subtract from it because it's not the same political constituency. >> i want to bring in our panel here. you know, josh, we -- there's been so much back -- there's so much politicizing over everything from, you know, the fast and the furious, attorney general eric holder, the benghazi events that were certainly tragedy iic, the loss of life, the loss of the u.s. ambassador. it has been so embroiled in politics and you add a clinton to the mix, and it gets even more political, and i will call your attention to charl
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embassy in benghazi, libya. that attack killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans and at the very start of that hearing john kerry came to the defense of secretary of state hillary clinton under fire from someone on the right for not testifying today due to illness. >> secretary clinton is recovering from a serious virus and concussion and given her condition it was simply not possible for her to appear here today. i assure you it is not her choice that she is not here today and she looks forward to appearing before the committee in january. >> the co-chair of that committee senator bob corker indicated he still wants to hear from secretary clinton herself. >> i think it's imperative that she come before this committee and i think it would be a shame to turn the page on this and go to a new regime without her being here and i do look forward to that happening when her health permits. >> mark, it's good to have you here. senator corker calling for clinton's testimony, meanwhile, the fallout from benghazi and the att
embassy in benghazi, libya. that attack killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans and at the very start of that hearing john kerry came to the defense of secretary of state hillary clinton under fire from someone on the right for not testifying today due to illness. >> secretary clinton is recovering from a serious virus and concussion and given her condition it was simply not possible for her to appear here today. i assure you it is not her choice that she is not...
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this morning's benghazi hearings, hillary clinton is grounded by her doctors did. the fiscal cliff vote. >>> and buzz lightyear likes space suits. >>> starting with a full-blown winter storm that could dump as much as a foot of snow in some areas. eight states have already issued blizzard warnings, almost ens e ensuring a white christmas for many parts of the country as the storm continues moving east. if that's not enough, more storms are forecast for next week. we'll have bill karins full forecast coming up. >>> as time runs out for lawmakers hammering out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, house republicans are sweetening a backup plan to gain more gop support. the president is vowing a veto even as hangups and negotiations threaten to keep him in town or delay his hawaiian vacation yet again this year. the irs estimates as many as 100 million tax returns could be delayed if no deal is struck by january 1st. >>> nbc's tracie potts joins us now from washington to break it all down. good morning. what's happening in today's vote? >> reporter: a couple of votes toda
this morning's benghazi hearings, hillary clinton is grounded by her doctors did. the fiscal cliff vote. >>> and buzz lightyear likes space suits. >>> starting with a full-blown winter storm that could dump as much as a foot of snow in some areas. eight states have already issued blizzard warnings, almost ens e ensuring a white christmas for many parts of the country as the storm continues moving east. if that's not enough, more storms are forecast for next week. we'll have...
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consulate in benghazi in libya has just been released. nbc news is still going through it at this hour. but this independent panel that has been investigating the attack in benghazi appears to be [ male announcer ] this is bob, a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin, and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem, that doesn't require routine blood monitoring. like warfarin, xarelto® is proven effective to reduce the risk of an afib-related stroke. there is limited data on how these drugs compare when warfarin is well managed. no routine blood monitoring m
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and a report on the attack in benghazi has been sent to congress ahead of hearings later on this week. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." has the political power of the nra peaked in the wake of the newtown shootings or are they just laying low waiting for the storm to pass. since friday they've been absent from the discussion on guns. today they released a statement saying they've been quiet, quote, as a matter of common decency, but they are planning -- in fact, they have a press conference set for friday. according to "the new york times," it has an established precedent for responding, quote, over the years the nra has perfected its strategy for responding to mass shootings. lie low at first, then slow roll any legislative push for a response. has something fundamental shifted in the guns debate however since friday or will it be business as usual with the nra calling the shots? in a moment mayor michael nutter of philadelphia will be with us. he's the head of the united states conference of mayors, and mark glaze is executive director of mayors against illega
and a report on the attack in benghazi has been sent to congress ahead of hearings later on this week. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." has the political power of the nra peaked in the wake of the newtown shootings or are they just laying low waiting for the storm to pass. since friday they've been absent from the discussion on guns. today they released a statement saying they've been quiet, quote, as a matter of common decency, but they are...
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consulate in benghazi in libya has just been released. nbc news is still going through it at this hour. but this independent panel that has been investigating the attack in benghazi appears to be placing most of the blame tonight squarely on the u.s. state department. please stay tuned. ♪ these are... [ male announcer ] marie callender's puts everything you've grown to love about sunday dinner into each of her pot pies. tender white meat chicken and vegetables in a crust made from scratch. marie callender's. it's time to savor. is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. [ sniffs
consulate in benghazi in libya has just been released. nbc news is still going through it at this hour. but this independent panel that has been investigating the attack in benghazi appears to be placing most of the blame tonight squarely on the u.s. state department. please stay tuned. ♪ these are... [ male announcer ] marie callender's puts everything you've grown to love about sunday dinner into each of her pot pies. tender white meat chicken and vegetables in a crust made from scratch....
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the benghazi first of all was not front and center. so she was put out as the highest ranking diplomat to speak that sunday. i think it was a job audition, i think they welcomed the opportunity to have her go out on five shows to show her stuff. she stuck to the talking points. i was on the same show and we were listening and watching and it did seem immediately to those of us watching that it was not adequately conveying the full complexity, but you understand when someone is going out nervously and sticking to the -- she would have been criticized more if she hadn't. >> again, listen, her argument wasn't credible, i understand why republicans were upset about that performance, four days, five days after they found out from general petraeus that they knew that al qaeda was involved, that it was a terrorist attack. but let's just strip this down and talk about what it was really about, politics. they were upset and you take it to the debate and candy crowley getting it wrong on what the president said and when he said it, the white hou
the benghazi first of all was not front and center. so she was put out as the highest ranking diplomat to speak that sunday. i think it was a job audition, i think they welcomed the opportunity to have her go out on five shows to show her stuff. she stuck to the talking points. i was on the same show and we were listening and watching and it did seem immediately to those of us watching that it was not adequately conveying the full complexity, but you understand when someone is going out...
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. >>> four state officials are out after a report that criticize the the security in benghazi. eric boswell resigned yesterday, three others were relieved of their duties. meantime, members of a senate and house foreign affairs commiter questioning state department officials about the benghazi attack today. the senate wrapped up its hearing moments ago. secretary clinton was set to testify and suffered a concussion while sick with a stomach virus. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. >>> the search for an answer to the question y continues for the newtown, connecticut, massacre. new information this morning that gunman adam lanza apparently wanted to become a marine. dan bury news types reports that if it didn't happen he wanted to join another branch of the military, but his mother squashed those plans because lanza didn't like to be touched. profeelers and jennegeneticists are -
. >>> four state officials are out after a report that criticize the the security in benghazi. eric boswell resigned yesterday, three others were relieved of their duties. meantime, members of a senate and house foreign affairs commiter questioning state department officials about the benghazi attack today. the senate wrapped up its hearing moments ago. secretary clinton was set to testify and suffered a concussion while sick with a stomach virus. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon,...
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clinton had been scheduled to testify about benghazi this week, but deputies will testify in her place. enter john bolten, former u.n. ambassador under george w. bush. he's not convinced of clinton's illness. >> you know, every foreign service officer in every foreign ministry in the world knows the phrase i'm about to use. when you don't want to go to a meeting or a conference or an event, you have a diplomatic illness. and this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band. >> victoria nuland responded saying bolton doesn't know what he's talking about. in bolton's case that's all a reasonable, safe assumption. >>> up next, is the horror of newtown marking the beginning of the end of the nra's dominance over the issue of gun control in this country? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to "hardball." has the political power of the nra peaked in the wake of the newtown shootings or are they just laying low waiting for the storm to pass. since friday they've been absent from the discussion on guns. today they released a statement saying they've been quiet, qu
clinton had been scheduled to testify about benghazi this week, but deputies will testify in her place. enter john bolten, former u.n. ambassador under george w. bush. he's not convinced of clinton's illness. >> you know, every foreign service officer in every foreign ministry in the world knows the phrase i'm about to use. when you don't want to go to a meeting or a conference or an event, you have a diplomatic illness. and this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band. >> victoria...
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diplomats in benghazi. joining us now from washington, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. zbigniew brzezinski who's the author of "strategic vision: america and the crisis of global power." dad, good to have you on. >> and you need to call him the great hunter. >> yes, he is a hunter. and former democratic congresswoman from california and director and president of the woodrow wilson center, jane harman. and bob woodward still at the table as well. good to have you with us today. where do we begin? benghazi? >> let's start with the benghazi report. dr. brzezinski, what was your take on it? >> it's a powerful report. it points the finger where the finger should be pointed. it seems to me that as i understand it, some people are resigning. that's probably proper, even though sad. at the same time, i don't feel that people should be pointing fingers at the secretary because in a big bureaucracy, in a big government, a lot of decisions are made at different levels. and, of course, there'
diplomats in benghazi. joining us now from washington, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. zbigniew brzezinski who's the author of "strategic vision: america and the crisis of global power." dad, good to have you on. >> and you need to call him the great hunter. >> yes, he is a hunter. and former democratic congresswoman from california and director and president of the woodrow wilson center, jane harman. and bob woodward still at the table as well....
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consulate in benghazi in libya has just been released. nbc news is still going through it at this hour. but this independent panel that has been investigating the attack in benghazi appears to be placing most of the blame tonight squarely on the u.s. state department. please stay tuned. [ boy ] there i was. another holiday stuck at the kids table again. then it happened. every boy's dream. i got called up to the big leagues. i was finally a man... on my way to shaving, driving and staying up past midnight. [ whoosh ] [ whoosh ] [ whoosh ] being an adult is overrated. [ male announcer ] holidays aren't the same without the real cream of reddi-wip. the sound of reddi-wip [ whoosh ] is the sound of joy. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what
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you have the fiscal cliff, you have the new cabinet, the benghazi report, immigration. and then you what do you think the likelihood is because i can tell you having sat in newtown for five days, there was this immediate sense from virtually everyone i spoke with that something could finally happen this time, but can it? >> well, chris, i saw all your reports from friday on. and the pain that the people were feeling. but i can't be as optimistic as i would like to be right now because i've been through this too many times starting with covering the outrage after columbine where people talked about curbing some gun -- putting some gun restrictions, there is also talk about hollywood and values, back in '99, the video games were quite the issue it was. there are all kinds of talk and we never had anything. this time, well, maybe things are a little different if for no other reason than the power of social media, letting people organize better on this issue, can cross the aisle on it. and i think for a lot of people, this may be an issue we're compromising on. what the whi
you have the fiscal cliff, you have the new cabinet, the benghazi report, immigration. and then you what do you think the likelihood is because i can tell you having sat in newtown for five days, there was this immediate sense from virtually everyone i spoke with that something could finally happen this time, but can it? >> well, chris, i saw all your reports from friday on. and the pain that the people were feeling. but i can't be as optimistic as i would like to be right now because...
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that was in response to the benghazi report. jamaal simmons, secretary clinton has been teflon, if you will, susan rice attracted all of the criticism in the early days and yet this report puts it right at the doorstep of the state department and she runs the state department. >> before the election, she came out and said i accept responsibility. and the recommendations came out, she said i will accept all the recommendations from the report. i think she's trying to do her best to own this as from a responsibility perspective. she's a popular person. people think she's done a good job at her job. >> certainly was a -- she was supposed to testify tomorrow. we know due to illness, she can't. deputies will testify in her place. she may testify in january. some say she better testify before john kerry's confirmed. >> it is the illness that launched a thousand conspiracy series, quite skeptical. but the incentives changed for republicans. during the campaign, they preferred to pin this on obama herself. hillary is a popular figure. t
that was in response to the benghazi report. jamaal simmons, secretary clinton has been teflon, if you will, susan rice attracted all of the criticism in the early days and yet this report puts it right at the doorstep of the state department and she runs the state department. >> before the election, she came out and said i accept responsibility. and the recommendations came out, she said i will accept all the recommendations from the report. i think she's trying to do her best to own...
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mostly in new york city for benghazi is really a stretch. she was the werngs who went out on sunday television. and she said today to brian williams that she is not blameless. i think there was a lack of care with the talking points and the republicans seized on it and claims she was being political and trying to be political at a key point in the presidential election campaign, which she strongly denies. >> but you're saying that the president's statements to that effect were not enough because they were not backed up with essentially procedural support for her to be fighting these attacks that could have happened had he nominated her. >> once she's nominated she is armed with the white house counsel's office-w every wise person, man or woman in washington who would be assigned to her to get her through the nomination process. but she was left -- she said she didn't feel that she's a victim here, but she certainly did acknowledge to brian that she thinks politics played a part. and i don't think there's any way to deny that. now, the fact t
mostly in new york city for benghazi is really a stretch. she was the werngs who went out on sunday television. and she said today to brian williams that she is not blameless. i think there was a lack of care with the talking points and the republicans seized on it and claims she was being political and trying to be political at a key point in the presidential election campaign, which she strongly denies. >> but you're saying that the president's statements to that effect were not enough...
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consulate in benghazi that left four americans dead. four state department officials, including the security chief have left their jobs under pressure. those changes come less than 24 hours after an independent review blamed the department for what it described as grossly inadequate security lapses, both before and during the september 11th attack. while secretary of state hillary clinton has said she's ultimately responsible, the chairman of the investigating panel suggests the security lapses occurred further down in the chain of command. >> we fixed it at the assist and the secretary level, which is in our view, the appropriate place to look, where the decisionmaking in fact take place, where if you like the rubber hits the road. >> the secretary of state has been very clear about taking responsibility here. it was, from my perspective, not reasonable in terms of her having a specific level of knowledge. that was very specifically resident in her staff and over time. certainly didn't bring that to her attention. >> secretary clinton
consulate in benghazi that left four americans dead. four state department officials, including the security chief have left their jobs under pressure. those changes come less than 24 hours after an independent review blamed the department for what it described as grossly inadequate security lapses, both before and during the september 11th attack. while secretary of state hillary clinton has said she's ultimately responsible, the chairman of the investigating panel suggests the security lapses...
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consulate in benghazi, libya. joining me now is former state department egypt officer joel ruben. good to have you here. this long-awaited independent report on the attack that killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three others in benghazi is going to be presented to the state department today. secretary clinton is not going to be there. is it crucial that she testify at some point in all of this, because this is another example of where she's not appearing before these meetings, before these committees. >> well, thomas, this is a very important week for the accountability review board. the results are coming out today to the state department. they'll be in open session later in the week with the two top deputies to secretary clinton. it is unfortunate that she's ill and certainly to have her forcefully communicate the results of the report would be excellent. she is the best at this, the best that the administration has to offer, but her deputies are very strong and they will make the arguments that need to be made. >> all right. so the senate committee, headed by john kerry,
consulate in benghazi, libya. joining me now is former state department egypt officer joel ruben. good to have you here. this long-awaited independent report on the attack that killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three others in benghazi is going to be presented to the state department today. secretary clinton is not going to be there. is it crucial that she testify at some point in all of this, because this is another example of where she's not appearing before these meetings, before...
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consulate in benghazi. it doesn't appear that is going to happen at this point. again she is at home, she is recovering. so that will be put on hold. secretary of state hillary clinton is of course set to leave her post. she will -- there's a lot of speculation about what's going to happen once she does that. will she run for president in 2016. i've been talking to a lot of people who are close to her, alex. they say her primary goal is really to rest. she is the most traveled secretary of state in u.s. history, having traveled to more than 100 countries. so again she did faint, suffer a concussion but she's at home, she is resting and she is being monitored by doctors. alex? >> okay, kristen welker, thank you for that update on our secretary of state. we appreciate that from the white house. let's go back now to connecticut and the developing information surrounding the shooting deaths of those 27 people at the newtown school. the location of this shooting and the young age of so many of the victims have made it particularly difficult to wrap our heads around. j
consulate in benghazi. it doesn't appear that is going to happen at this point. again she is at home, she is recovering. so that will be put on hold. secretary of state hillary clinton is of course set to leave her post. she will -- there's a lot of speculation about what's going to happen once she does that. will she run for president in 2016. i've been talking to a lot of people who are close to her, alex. they say her primary goal is really to rest. she is the most traveled secretary of...
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they can go ahead and hold benghazi hearings, but nobody will pay any attention except fox. >> michael, what's your reaction to susan rice dropping out of contention for secretary of state? why do you think she did it, and was she forced out with just a media circus? >> no, i think that's a good point, ed. i think she did largely because of what she said. she wanted to protect the administration going into the second term, not to have the distraction of a contentious confirmation hearing. as you know, senator mccain was already positioning himself on the appropriate committee to be a part of that grilling process to come. so i think she really looked down the road and saw for the betterment of the president's agenda in trying to get ahead of the noise to step aside. i thought that quite honestly that was a very smart thing to do. with respect to the political points scored, look, the bottom line is her scalp is one of many political scalps that have been shaved by democrats and republicans in trying to score for their base but it doesn't necessarily serve the ultimate interest of the c
they can go ahead and hold benghazi hearings, but nobody will pay any attention except fox. >> michael, what's your reaction to susan rice dropping out of contention for secretary of state? why do you think she did it, and was she forced out with just a media circus? >> no, i think that's a good point, ed. i think she did largely because of what she said. she wanted to protect the administration going into the second term, not to have the distraction of a contentious confirmation...
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she was scheduled to testify this week at a hearing about the benghazi attacks. but while suffering from a stomach virus, secretary clinton fainted, hit her head, and sustained a concussion. doctors told her to work from home this week. and her deputies will testify in her place. she's recuperating at her home. which means some righties smell a conspiracy. the new york post called the concussion a head fake. investors business daily says it's suspicious. no one's seen a medical report. the daily caller is picking up the drum beat with a headline where's hillary clinton's medical report? the conspiracies even made it on to tv. >> every foreign service officer in every foreign ministry in the world knows the phrase i'm about to use. when you don't want to go to a meeting or concert or event, you have a diplomatic illness. and this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band. >> they're accusing the secretary of state of playing hooky. they seem to be forgetting that the house could still ask clinton to testify in the future. in fact, they probably will. the right wing
she was scheduled to testify this week at a hearing about the benghazi attacks. but while suffering from a stomach virus, secretary clinton fainted, hit her head, and sustained a concussion. doctors told her to work from home this week. and her deputies will testify in her place. she's recuperating at her home. which means some righties smell a conspiracy. the new york post called the concussion a head fake. investors business daily says it's suspicious. no one's seen a medical report. the...
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they detail whenever you have an unexpected situation, unexpected requirement that we had in benghazi, it has to come out of somewhere else. they have been good and trying to balance these things and ultimately it needs more resources and more support and able to handle what it calls expeditionary diplomacy, putting people like these in very, very difficult and dangerous situations. >> back to the question of what this does for secretary clinton's record. she supposed to identify and will not be able to due it an illness. this is what the ambassador had to say regarding secretary clinton. let's play it. >> when you don't want to go to a meeting or conference or event, you have a diplomatic illness. this is a diplomatic illness to beat the band. i hope it's nothing serious, but this was revealed in a way that i think was not transparent. >> your reaction to that comment? >> it's outrageous. look, this happened on hillary clinton's watch and is going to be part of her record as secretary of state. i use an analogy that in some cases we won't know for a number of years the investments we
they detail whenever you have an unexpected situation, unexpected requirement that we had in benghazi, it has to come out of somewhere else. they have been good and trying to balance these things and ultimately it needs more resources and more support and able to handle what it calls expeditionary diplomacy, putting people like these in very, very difficult and dangerous situations. >> back to the question of what this does for secretary clinton's record. she supposed to identify and will...
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he was quick to point out congress should take some blame for what happened in benghazi. >> i want to be krystal clear about something else. congress, also, bears some responsibility here. congress has the power of the purse. adequately funding america's foreign policy objectives is not spending. it's investing. >> this morning's hearing marked by sharp questioning by republican senators. >> secretary clinton just sent up a notification to congress asking for $1.3 billion. why did she never ask for any notification or change of resources to make sure benghazi was secured? >> we are in a situation where the middle east is evolving. democracies are growing. militaries are forming and we must look at each and every one of those sites and every one of our posts and reexamine it under a new normal. >> you were aware of the security risk there. we have read the cables. you were fully aware. and either you sent people there with security or you don't send them there. >> and a hearing by the house foreign affairs committee started an hour ago. nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donne
he was quick to point out congress should take some blame for what happened in benghazi. >> i want to be krystal clear about something else. congress, also, bears some responsibility here. congress has the power of the purse. adequately funding america's foreign policy objectives is not spending. it's investing. >> this morning's hearing marked by sharp questioning by republican senators. >> secretary clinton just sent up a notification to congress asking for $1.3 billion. why...
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rice's sunday talk show round up after the september 11th attacks in benghazi, libya put her in front to provide information. as it turns out, she had not written the material she delivered that day and was not dishonest about her understanding of the attacks. funny thing, they don't have to be there to play the game. the biggest there that wasn't there in politics, another presidential adviser with talking points. secretary of state hopeful making the case for her administration's national security strategy. this time, the talking points led to a war that killed thousands and had has a decade long lasting effect. in 2003, when condoleezza rice made the rounds, she was in no uncertain terms paving the path to war in iraq. later when condoleezza rice was going through confirmation hearings, her role in selling the war was not lost on senate democrats, yet, she made it through the nomination process because her side, the republicans chose to fight the fight. somehow, the fight this time around, despite the troubling thin reasons for opposition became not worth having. perhaps because th
rice's sunday talk show round up after the september 11th attacks in benghazi, libya put her in front to provide information. as it turns out, she had not written the material she delivered that day and was not dishonest about her understanding of the attacks. funny thing, they don't have to be there to play the game. the biggest there that wasn't there in politics, another presidential adviser with talking points. secretary of state hopeful making the case for her administration's national...
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she suffered from a fall after a virus and the concussion and as you know was not at the benghazi hearings yesterday. we reported last thursday when susan rice withdrew that kerri was the choice. the question was timing. they didn't want to go too long, but of course there is a funeral today which kerry and the president will both be attending for senator daniel inouye. that was something else that delayed the timing. it was originally supposed to be this morning that john kerry would be nominated and that funeral won't be over until 10:00, rather about noon at the national cathedral. after that back at the white house there will be an announcement. it is not going to be what was originally contemplated, the entire national security team, cia, defense, a bit of controversy over chuck hagel. the president has been strongly considering chuck hagel for defense secretary and still is we are told. he has not backed off of that. there is fierce opposition building up, the same lobbying campaign that frankly torpedoed susan rice, and there is a lot of thought in democratic circles outside the whi
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and house on that controversial investigation about to be reported to congress on what went wrong in benghazi. that's one big thing. she is -- she had a concussion, we are told. she fainted after being dehydrated from a result of that stomach flu we were told about last monday when unexpectedly secretary clinton postponed a trip to places in the region for suggestions on the syrian opposition. in her place, veteran diplomat deputy secretary william burns went in hjertstedt. she's just come back from a rip during which she and head of policy planning and other top officials all got sick. so that was hornlgly postponed from monday to tuesday. then clear she was not going to be well enough in turn they -- the trip would be taken instead by her deputy. it is not clear when she actually fell and how long she has been suffering from the concussion. it is very, very difficult to get information on her actual health because they are being very, very privilege at about it. >> butter with to understand that she's at home recovering right now. andrea mitchell, thank you so much. if there is an update do
and house on that controversial investigation about to be reported to congress on what went wrong in benghazi. that's one big thing. she is -- she had a concussion, we are told. she fainted after being dehydrated from a result of that stomach flu we were told about last monday when unexpectedly secretary clinton postponed a trip to places in the region for suggestions on the syrian opposition. in her place, veteran diplomat deputy secretary william burns went in hjertstedt. she's just come back...
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consulate in benghazi, libya that killed more americans, including an ambassador. republican and democratic lawmakers clashed over whether a lack of funding or lack of leadership was the real problem. >>> last night on "rock center with brian williams," richard engel recounted the agonizing moments of being held capitalive in syria, including the moments he felt he'd never leave the country alive. >> you're blindfolded. you don't know what's going on. they take you outside forcefully. they line you up against a wall. you hear weapons loading and unloading. you hear plastic wrap being on a tarp set out in front of you. you think this is it. then they leave you there for 30 minutes. and just let the moment play out. and that was happening every day. >> richard and his team were not harmed and left syria on tuesday. he'll share more of his story on the "today" show. >>> over on wall street, the dow gained 59 points yesterday. the s&p up seven and the nasdaq added six. the nikkei fell 99 while the hang seng dropped 153. >>> today could be a tense day for markets. stock
consulate in benghazi, libya that killed more americans, including an ambassador. republican and democratic lawmakers clashed over whether a lack of funding or lack of leadership was the real problem. >>> last night on "rock center with brian williams," richard engel recounted the agonizing moments of being held capitalive in syria, including the moments he felt he'd never leave the country alive. >> you're blindfolded. you don't know what's going on. they take you...
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what did the president know about benghazi? the u.n. ambassador has no relation to her qualifications to be secretary of state. and i think the gop has had this really nagging complaint that there was too much information given about the bin laden and reflected too well on the president. they can't. criticize the fact the administration went after and did something the president was able to do and that was hunt down bin laden. i don't think it's justified. and i think it's political grapes. but all of this has been a tremendous distraction from what we e ought to be focused on. where are we in hunt for people who killed our ambassador? and bringing them to justice? in an ordinary course of events, that would be the sole focus. >> let's hope no one is taking their eye off of that. that's the most important thing right now. i want to switch topics with you and go to the fiscal cliff. how much harder does that make it to reach. a deal? >> it really doesn't make it anymore difficult. we're see egg the usual choreography of negotiations wher
what did the president know about benghazi? the u.n. ambassador has no relation to her qualifications to be secretary of state. and i think the gop has had this really nagging complaint that there was too much information given about the bin laden and reflected too well on the president. they can't. criticize the fact the administration went after and did something the president was able to do and that was hunt down bin laden. i don't think it's justified. and i think it's political grapes. but...
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preferred to be named as swu state or even potential for swuf state and used that against her on this benghazi piece. they actually had a masterful strategy. it was disgust and depickable, but it actually was pretty well played out. >> the other name is chuck haggle for defense. i think name twoing white men in the same week when you just saw an african-american woman who is well qualified, overly qualified, get treated that way, and the new cabinet that looks like -- probably not a smart strategic decision. it may be a while before we get those names kind of facilitied out a little bit. >> i think the strafing of susan rice was despicable, but i do think the nomination of any secretary of state or any cabinet appointment is an opportunity to probe what this administration's foreign policies are. i would like to hear barbara boxer, tom udall raise questions about what are the president's powers in the "war on terror?" do you believe climate change is a clear and present danger. what are you going to do about a global check recovery? what are you going to do about the hyper militaryization of o
preferred to be named as swu state or even potential for swuf state and used that against her on this benghazi piece. they actually had a masterful strategy. it was disgust and depickable, but it actually was pretty well played out. >> the other name is chuck haggle for defense. i think name twoing white men in the same week when you just saw an african-american woman who is well qualified, overly qualified, get treated that way, and the new cabinet that looks like -- probably not a smart...
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for someone that isn't that well known, she has been associated with just this fight and just benghazi. >> the biggest number at all is most people don't know enough about her to make up their opinion. as we know, the way politics worse is that absence two sides of a debate, one side will win. if there is one piece of information, it's all been pretty negative about her so far. i do think there is a risk for republicans regardless of whether they will say that if they proceed with a pretty ugly i think there are problems with terms of tone and how aggress he have the republicans want to be seen as going after her especially because so many attacks are over this benghazi issue and over talking points, and -- >> she had nothing -- >> look. her critics make other arguments, and you can debate the substance of that, but many terms of just sort of this is a very narrow cast discussion right now over a tv appearance. >> over one tv appearance. diversity is always an issue in the obama cabinet. just like any other administration. >> that's right. >> interestingly enough, it's been 15 years si
for someone that isn't that well known, she has been associated with just this fight and just benghazi. >> the biggest number at all is most people don't know enough about her to make up their opinion. as we know, the way politics worse is that absence two sides of a debate, one side will win. if there is one piece of information, it's all been pretty negative about her so far. i do think there is a risk for republicans regardless of whether they will say that if they proceed with a...
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consulate in benghazi. it places most of the blame on the state department for providing extra security. they conclude a systemic management failure at the state department resulted in grossly inadequate security at the consulate where four americans were killed that night. the report says the u.s. relied on poorly skilled local militia members to safeguard the facility, and investigators found no evidence it was sparked by protests to an anti-muslim video. >> no evidence of that, and that's what, of course, the white house and the press led with after this happened. >> this is from an independent panel. >> unbelievable. gross negligence, willie, against hillary clinton's state democrat department. >> the report found no cause for disciplinary action. they made 29 recommendations to improve embassy security. secretary of state hillary clinton reportedly has accepted all of them. >> can i ask you, when is the hearing? >> thursday. >> what is she going to say at the hearing. >> she's not going to be present.
consulate in benghazi. it places most of the blame on the state department for providing extra security. they conclude a systemic management failure at the state department resulted in grossly inadequate security at the consulate where four americans were killed that night. the report says the u.s. relied on poorly skilled local militia members to safeguard the facility, and investigators found no evidence it was sparked by protests to an anti-muslim video. >> no evidence of that, and...
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she will come to congress, she says, in january with her response to that report on benghazi. the report has now been completed and given to her today. her top deputies are going to be testifying about it on thursday. we'll be right back. ♪ but the fire is so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow ♪ doing it with a cold, just not going to happen. vicks dayquil -- powerful non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs ] [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. ♪ vicks nyquil -- powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. >>> whatever portion of sadness that we can share with you to ease this heavy load, we will gladly bear it. >> this is the fourth time president obama has had to try to console a grieving community in the midst of the heart-wrenching pain and there was no follow-up from the white house or congress. well, will this time be different? joining me is nbc news historian. michael, i'm rec
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be so outraged about the loss of life, which is terrible, about ambassadors that are working over in benghazi, and yet they are very, very quiet on this. >> and keep in mind, john mccain hired sarah palin to be vice president who coined the phrase, don't retreat, reload. >> that pretty much says it all. alex wagner, jonathan alter, thank you. >>> breaking news in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has a counteroffer. more after this. that was ups. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. >>> government jobs taking away all guns. but that's not what i'm saying. i would just think that the founding fathers could have foreseen automatic weapons coming down the pike. i doubt it. i don't think they were thinking about that when they wrote the second amendment. people change, t
be so outraged about the loss of life, which is terrible, about ambassadors that are working over in benghazi, and yet they are very, very quiet on this. >> and keep in mind, john mccain hired sarah palin to be vice president who coined the phrase, don't retreat, reload. >> that pretty much says it all. alex wagner, jonathan alter, thank you. >>> breaking news in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has a counteroffer. more after this. that was ups. that was ups....
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she doesn't even -- she managed to dodge the whole situation on benghazi pretty well for herself. you know, the tougher questions are being faced by her old foe, the president right now, who's in this incredibly difficult position. and losing stwo nominees is not a small thing. it does impact the rest of the budget debate, too. >> and what newt gingrich is also saying is that she would be very difficult to beat. that's what you hear around washington is that republicans who used to love the idea of having hillary clinton out there as the latest pinata, they're very worried that that's going to mean three democratic wins in a row. richard's point about how she's -- how the record that she has as secretary of state, they backed off her. secretary clinton's people point out that her polls are as high as they've ever been, despite this publicity. there's been no decline in her standing. so republicans who are salivating at the idea of having her for fund-raising and having her because she's great copy, but they also realize that ee electree electric torally, she's a huge threat. >> mi
she doesn't even -- she managed to dodge the whole situation on benghazi pretty well for herself. you know, the tougher questions are being faced by her old foe, the president right now, who's in this incredibly difficult position. and losing stwo nominees is not a small thing. it does impact the rest of the budget debate, too. >> and what newt gingrich is also saying is that she would be very difficult to beat. that's what you hear around washington is that republicans who used to love...
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of maine, who is known as a moderate and didn't seem to have a particular ax to grind on the whole benghazi thing going into that meeting. even, you know, a week ago mccain making some more conciliatory noises and now back where he started very opposed to this nomination saying kerry would be okay, but absolutely not susan rice. so, the administration will have a fight on their hands. >> but you would think that sheer optics of this would be enough to dissuade some members of the gop. you have a bunch of old white guys spending a couple days bashing, bashing a fairly popular black woman on national television for days. you would think all things considered at this point, lynn sweet, that they might have some second thoughts about that. >> well, maybe. what i hear from the administration, though, they are going to announce their national security picks as a package defense because we know leon panetta wants to leave and state maybe some changes over in the national security apparatus at the white house. so, maybe the white house is also thinking that if they have a bunch of potential conif c
of maine, who is known as a moderate and didn't seem to have a particular ax to grind on the whole benghazi thing going into that meeting. even, you know, a week ago mccain making some more conciliatory noises and now back where he started very opposed to this nomination saying kerry would be okay, but absolutely not susan rice. so, the administration will have a fight on their hands. >> but you would think that sheer optics of this would be enough to dissuade some members of the gop. you...
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did politics overshadow the real issues of what happened in benghazi and if so why? >> they did overshadow it and it continues. we had a hearing this week in foreign affairs. my republican colleagues want to continue to focus on it in a way that i think is not constructive at all. the report came out of the state department. the state department accepted responsibility and said that they should have done more. at the same time my republican colleagues also want to cut the very funding that is needed to protect the embassies around the country. so i think it is disingenuous and all about attacking president obama and the way that they torpedos susan rice. i think directing their attacks at her was inappropriate and they are still talking about it. >> democratic congress woman karen bass of california thank you very much and hop haappy holidays. >>> we will hear. a second look at the first lady and the next act for chelsea clinton. you are watching msnbc. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet,
did politics overshadow the real issues of what happened in benghazi and if so why? >> they did overshadow it and it continues. we had a hearing this week in foreign affairs. my republican colleagues want to continue to focus on it in a way that i think is not constructive at all. the report came out of the state department. the state department accepted responsibility and said that they should have done more. at the same time my republican colleagues also want to cut the very funding...
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there's no question that benghazi continues to be litigated. even on the democratic side, there is some division on this. i've talked to democratic senators who have questioned whether she has the standing, the stature, to be secretary of state. so obviously there's some division about how people view susan rice. but here's the bottom line. she's very close to the president of the united states. she is a key voice in his national security team. that's what could ultimately win the day. john kerry has been campaigning hard for it. he's done everything this administration has asked in their first term. overseas, been quite engaged as chairman of the foreign relations committee. so he's certainly a very strong candidate. but at this point, even people close to the president suggest there's just a bit of a question mark about how much of a fight he wants and how much it will come down to getting somebody he believes in and he's close to into that job. >> congressman cleaver, your thoughts on susan rice as a potential nominee. >> well, i think susan
there's no question that benghazi continues to be litigated. even on the democratic side, there is some division on this. i've talked to democratic senators who have questioned whether she has the standing, the stature, to be secretary of state. so obviously there's some division about how people view susan rice. but here's the bottom line. she's very close to the president of the united states. she is a key voice in his national security team. that's what could ultimately win the day. john...